Dud3s

This season has shown more than ever how whacked the whole system is. Mizzou and West Virginia for the national title game? Seems like a great matchup...

Not sure Hawaii should play for the game, but then again I wasn't so sure about Florida last year and look how that turned up.

Florida did as well as they did last year because they were playing a weak Ohio State team with a super-easy schedule who everyone thought was good because, hey, they're Ohio State! Same thing as this year, pretty much. Ohio State = Overrated.

As for Mizzou -- haven't seen enough of them this year to make a decision. West Virginia, on the other hand, is a team I've been watching, and all I have to say is that the Big East is a seriously, seriously underrated conference. Glad to see WV is giving it some legitimacy, even when South Florida failed to do so (grrrr).

[Correction: All SF out of conference games were won by the Bulls. They only lost to Big East opponents, which says something about the quality of teams in that conference. The Big East has already gained legitimacy by their game play -- all bowls Big East teams went to last year were won by the Big East team -- now the rest of the country has to get over their lust affair with the SEC.]

I hate to be pedantic (understand that this is a lie) and ignore the topic, but Hawai'i is one of the islands that makes up the state of Hawaii.

And I think Hawaii should definitely be in the BCS. Though I don't know what the BCS is.

Hawai'i is one of the islands that makes up the state of Hawaii.

You know, I never knew that. Fixed in the post.

I hate to be pedantic (understand that this is a lie)

THIS I know.

I never knew that.

Nor did I, until I googled it, hoping to get a chance at some pedantry!

Carry on.

Man they don't call it the WAC for nothing. ;)

I respect Colt Brennan's talent. I respect that Hawaii plays anyone who is willing to play them due to their location. However their schedule has been one nobody team after another. Not to mention the fact that they allowed La-Tech 44 points. And beat them by 1. That's not how champions play.

I think they should play in a BCS bowl, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that they're the best team in the country.

I also think it's ridiculous that Georgia is ranked so highly. Yes they won Saturday - against an unranked team outside of their conference! They don't even have a shot at their DIVISION title yet they could possibly play for the national championship! That's seriously f***ed up!

However their schedule has been one nobody team after another.

This was not by their choosing. They've attempted time and time again to play against teams like Florida, Michigan, LSU, Cali, Michigan, and so on. Every time those teams said "no", especially if the game was going to be in Hawaii. So it's not like Hawaii has much of a choice in their schedule. And remember, they have to deal with jet lag for half of their games. I'd like to see West Virginia or Missouri have to do that and still have the records they have (or, technically, better).

Not to mention the fact that they allowed La-Tech 44 points. And beat them by 1. That's not how champions play.

I think you're missing the point that unlike EVERY other team in front of them in the rankings, Hawaii actually WON all the games they were supposed to. This includes LSU, Missouri, West Virginia, Ohio State, Georgia, Kansas, Virginia Tech, USC, Oklahoma, Florida, and Boston College.

In fact, that IS how champions are supposed to play: they win games, even when they're close. In the end it's all about the "W". Or are you ready to also tell me also that the Patriots aren't really all that good because they only beat Philly by 3?

but I wouldn't go as far as to say that they're the best team in the country.

That's the problem with the BCS: it's mostly opinion. And if you (not "you" specific, but "you" general) buy the line that the regular season IS the playoff in this system, then their record says otherwise.

Beating opponents a team is supposed to beat doesn't mean anything to me if all those opponents are terrible.

Like I said, I respect that nobody wants to come to Hawaii and play. Sure they don't have a choice. That still doesn't discredit the fact that they have the weakest schedule of all I-A teams.

Maybe they can beat an SEC or Big Ten team. Until they actually play one, though, I'm not going to kiss their ass.

And you can't even compare NFL competition to NCAA. Completely different stakes.

Beating opponents a team is supposed to beat doesn't mean anything to me if all those opponents are terrible.

Boise State is terrible? I know, that's one example only, but its the only one they get a chance to play.

Like I said, I respect that nobody wants to come to Hawaii and play.

Actually, it's also the case that they won't have Hawaii go out and play there.

Sure they don't have a choice. That still doesn't discredit the fact that they have the weakest schedule of all I-A teams.

Explain Ohio State, then. In the championship picture, with the second weakest schedule of all I-A teams, yet they're ranked #3.

Maybe they can beat an SEC or Big Ten team. Until they actually play one, though, I'm not going to kiss their ass.

Not kissing their ass, either. Simply pointing out that they're the only undefeated team and that they're not even NEAR the title picture. I consider letting a 2-loss team off easy because they're "supposed" to be good *Cough*LSU*Cough* ass kissing. I don't consider arguing that an undefeated team -- the ONLY undefeated team -- should have a shot at the title ass kissing.

And you can't even compare NFL competition to NCAA. Completely different stakes.

Your statement was, in essence, that a champion isn't supposed to let a "bad" team get that close to a win. My point was that even great teams sometimes eek out victories when they're supposed to be blowing them out. (Think Miami/Pittsburgh this past Monday night.) It's football. It happens. But unlike every other team ahead of them, Hawaii hasn't let that victory get away. Nor have the Pats.

Explain Ohio State, then. In the championship picture, with the second weakest schedule of all I-A teams, yet they're ranked #3.

If you're in a "tough" conference and you're undefeated, you will be at the top of the BCS. It's that simple. I think the Big Ten sucks, but it is considered to be one of the bigger conferences for some reason. Ohio State knocked off a bunch of weak ass teams in the Big Ten and they are at the top. I think that's lame, especially with a lose to a non-ranked team so late in the season.

If Hawaii was in any other conference, and undefeated, they'd be at the top. But their conference is horrible, therefore, they get no props. Part of me wants to see them play in the national championship, part of me doesn't.

Explain Ohio State, then. In the championship picture, with the second weakest schedule of all I-A teams, yet they're ranked #3.

Interestingly enough Boise State has the second weakest SOS. Followed by Kansas, Oklahoma and then Ohio State a bit further up the chart. At least in as much as the Top 25 is concerned. (Of course you've got the entire C-USA dispersed amidst them when you look at all 119 teams.)

You'll never catch me saying "the" Ohio State isn't overrated, so don't ask me to explain how they constantly hover in the top 5 despite being exposed as total rubes in last year's championship and then cruising through another easy schedule. They are a joke. Also every Ohio State fan I've met has been a douchebag.

Yes this all boils down to the BCS being a complete mess. Hawaii is in a catch-22 because they have to prove that other teams can play them without their SOS taking a hit.

Not kissing their ass, either. Simply pointing out that they're the only undefeated team and that they're not even NEAR the title picture. I consider letting a 2-loss team off easy because they're "supposed" to be good *Cough*LSU*Cough* ass kissing. I don't consider arguing that an undefeated team -- the ONLY undefeated team -- should have a shot at the title ass kissing.

Oh my god that burns. Perhaps I should have used the phrase "jump on their bandwagon" instead of "kiss their ass" because that was really just me being crass. I just don't give teams the benefit of the doubt when we've yet to see them slay a single beast.

Aaaand I don't think LSU should be in the title game, by the way. I haven't believed that we were truly the best since the Kentucky game. Even though we're undefeated in regulation of course. ;-) Too many mistakes and bad calls on account of Les Miles clearly focusing on certain other programs. The Les Miles I know and love for his ballsy "I can't believe that worked" play-calling would have gone for two and won it right there instead of tying to go into overtime. I wish he would just come out with a straight answer and say whether or not he's leaving instead of letting that black cloud hang over the whole team.

There have been some games that we should have won handily but struggled in, and some that have been won by sheer will. Yes they were still wins, but when your team is considered the best in the country you've got to prove it every week and get the good wins.

Anybody watching the Sugar Bowl right now? I stand by what I said. Hawai'i is completely powerless against UGA. Colt Brennan will definitely be sore in the morning (not from the raping, from the sacks).